right now? your proposal is so sweeping. it does release everyone. within ten years and then there s a process of looking at how can we get away from mass incarceration. sandra: all right. another moment. he got somebody to admit something that they were pushing for. trace: the walgreens in the cvs stores in california are saying we are out. they can t handle it. the crime is too high. they are losing too much money, so they are pulling out of the state. sandra: i was talking through this, big about the other side of this. if you have stuff happening in the city having to lock everything up. got to get somebody to come and unlock it for you. new york is dealing with this. it raises the prices of everything. everybody pays more. trace: the price is fixed into it. president biden addressing the nation price crisis. downplaying concerns.