new place where it s open combat on this issue and we re no longer couching it? yes and no. i mean, i think, look, let s be grateful that all of those fancy law professors and susan collins and people who told us that these folks really meant when they said roe was precedent, they meant that, okay, let s put that aside. that artifice is gone. the artifice i worry about and you played na brett kaf clip is the artifice of let s be neutral. we re going to pretend to be neutral. we re not going to bad abortion. we re just not going to say there s a right, and that middle place, that neutral place is to just let states decide. we saw that same artifice amy coney barrett kept insisting because there were safe haven laws that allow you to more readily give your child up for adoption, it s not a problem for women to be forced to carry to term. they can just give their babies up.