democratic activists and members suggest. but that does not mean this is not going to be a knock down drag out battle, true? yeah, that s right. and you know, breyer really earned the ire of a lot of people from the left when he actually rejected the view that this was a conservative court. he publicly said it s not, that these justices really try to get these questions right and for that he was called on msnbc naive, and calls increased for his retirement. he really did, i think, stand for the institution itself. he was a strong opponent of packing the court, which also drew a lot of criticism from the left in last year or so. sandra: so jonathan, as we take in all of this breaking news, a lot of speculation just looking at some of the statements coming out from some of the members of congress, of course, that are predicting this