Threatened to the veto the bill saying any spending cut attached to a debt ceiling raise is a non-starter. i m happy to meet with mccarthy but not on whether or not the debt limit gets extended. that s not negotiable. i tellth president we can sit down, no parameters, the only thing i would tell him is no clean debt ceiling s going to pass the house. maria: the national department is currently at $31.7 trillion with interest alone at over $500 billion. both numbers simply not sustainable. joining me right now in this sun morning ebb collusive interview is texas republican senator, ted cruz, a member of the senate judiciary committee. senator, it s always a pleasure. thanks so much for joining me. good morning, maria. thanks for having me. maria: so let s start with the debt bill because we ve got lots to talk to you about this morning. what happens to this bill which passed in the house when it reaches the senate? well, it ll be up to chuck schumer whether to bring it up for a