good. so when rudy giuliani says i m being charged for practicing law, that s absolute nonsense. he s being charged because he s alleged to have lied in public forums, to have pressured people to change the outcome of an election by illegal means. those are the crimes with which he s charged. he s not charged simply for representing someone who lost an election. barbara, i wanted to take a walk down memory lane and play some sound from another trump lawyer, his former fixer, michael cohen. listen. he doesn t give you questions, he doesn t give you orders. he speaks in a code. and i understand the code because i have been around him for a decade. so, as a lawyer, what is expected of you when you have a client who seems to thrive in legal gray areas or who acts like trump and seems to speak in code? yeah, a lawyer has a responsibility to be clear about what they are communicating and what they are going to do. and so it may be that that is the way the mob boss works and