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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20220113 23:28:00

prepare for war. talking like that, he soon found followers. the new group grew into tens of thousands of form and former law enforcement members, officials and military members. there s still open questions about how operational rhodes and this group actually is. how many of them actually want to literally wage war, which is chargeable by sedition and other things, and how many are talking tough, running around and not committing crimes. whether people like it or not, i ve said this before, even in a tough time, talking trash, lying, speaking in ridiculous extreme and hate 68 ways, much of that is protected under the law, whether you like it or not. the point is not to paint everyone with the same brush, but the other point to to be

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20220113 23:27:00

people, including some of their members. was there about skepticism of the government in general? or was it about something else? this group started specifically in 2009, not out of a generalized academic concern with federal power, but specifically in reaction to something that many americans thought would not happen the election of barack obama as president. rhodes did not respond by suggesting voter registration to oust obama in the next election or back ago strong republican opponent, or even by criticizing president obama, or lying about hem, all of which are perfectly legal in our democracy. he said he saw the election of this first black president as a cause for people to arm themselves and prepare for war. let me repeat urging his members to arm themselves and

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20220113 23:12:00

once you take an act, there s a lot more in this indictment. stacking up is a military form mace where each person grabs the shoulder of the person in front of them, but they are acting on the myth, the fable, the lie that the election had been stolen as early as november of, you know, 20th, they start to form their group there s there s a number of activities so it s a well-formed conspiracy. they have very concrete steps that are taken. as a prosecutor, you start with that video to set the stage, a video like that, and then prove each one of these overt act, and i think one is like throwing a

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20220113 23:30:00

in government at any level. suddenly this group who, it found a wannabe authoritarian it loved, backing trump in every turn, growing to over 20,000 members that we know of. by january 6th, it had members working with roger stone, they were seen together just by the willard hotel, which became something of a command center with trump allies like bannon and giuliani, where they were plotting how to overturn trump s loss. roger stone, flanked by men wearing insignias of a mill litchia group. you can seen in that video, stone, who was recently pardoned, near men in mill litch contragear, two of them with oath keepers insignias. you request see it in the video. you can see it in the sedition

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