Crimes. it must be punished. cnn international diplomatic editor nic robertson standing by live for us in brussels. nic, the symbolism of visiting kyiv is important, anything else, any substance to come of this? reporter: michel promising a donor conference the 5th of may, the world bank involved, sweden and poland along with the eu. he said they would be putting it together. so important financial assistance he said that would continue to flow to ukraine for humanitarian, the military component continuing to flow. he said it s important ukraine can continue to pay its government services, government employees in the days and weeks ahead but also committed to helping rebuild ukraine. zelenskyy, interestingly, said nothing on the horizon at the moment in terms of any peace negotiations with russia. he said there were 120,000 civilians still trapped in mariupol, a much bigger number