to the fbi spokesman there and talked about how it ebbed and flowed and got intense sometimes. what sorts of things, in your experience, would predicate a decision to go in? so just going back from the beginning of the day there was this sort of caricature of how law enforcement works or at least professional law enforcement. they re just going to run in and everything has to be fast and resolved. and the truth is for a hostage negotiator in most instances because it s not an active shooter situation, those are two different situations. in a hostage situation you re really trying to buy times. we call it you re trying to extend the runway and give more time. why are you buying time? the hostage may give up, may release the host mg taker may give up, he may release a hostage as we saw earlier today. he may tire, or he may become