he talked about needing to go out and talk to the american public more and sell what he has gotten done and, you know, it s just again a reminder that this build back better bill he was promising the american public saying they would get paid leave and expanded medicare and e expanded medicaid hasn t panned out. the other thing we wonder about naturally is who is going to be the liaison to the senate. rachel, you re hearing frustration between senator joe manchin, one of the most important senators right now and the president s chief of staff. i mean, that s exactly right. one of the reasons why build back better hasn t come back together and talks haven t taken off yet is joe manchin is frustrated with the chief of staff of the white house ron klain because the white house came after him personally when he walked away from the table to sort of question does he keep
taking her literally as well as taking her seriously. i m taking her as saying something they are saying and will not be able to live up to. like you said about the debt, i guarantee you that donald trump runs for president, for re-election saying he reduced the debt. when it will have gone up by 4 trillion. that s the real fake news we live in, which is the false equivalency of someone saying actual live the debt went up a little bit. they will say that everybody is getting the same health insurance. they will say that medicaid hasn t been cut or medicare hasn t been cut, but it s up to the press, really, to dig in. i so what you are saying. he would say medicaid hasn t been cult, we put it back to the
hasn t been cut or medicare hasn t been cut, but it s up to the press, really, to dig in. i so what you are saying. he would say medicaid hasn t been cult, we put it back to the way it was before obamacare. or the states an the states can improve it and they know how to do it. we are not cutting it. you expect donald trump to lie around the negative outcomes. what about the members of congress? i think they will say everybody has the opportunity to get the same or better insurance, but if the states didn t deliver on it or if charitable organizations didn t deliver on it, or if these high-risk plans we set up didn t deliver on it, well, we are still working on it. that s not our fault. the thing with republican senators who will be approached by the big hospitals, especially research hospitals in their states, that they care about, and that they know they will spend some time in themselves,
obamacare is their plan. kellyanne conway, which is ris can i to mention her. we know she doesn t speak for donald trump. no one does. but she said today on morning joe we don t want anyone who currently has insurance to not have insurance. so not one person currently covered under obamacare can lose their insurance and the only way to do that is to preserve obamacare. here s the problem, you are taking her literally as well as taking her seriously. i m taking her as saying something they are saying and will not be able to live up to. like you said about the debt, i guarantee you that donald trump runs for president, for re-election saying he reduced the debt. when it will have gone up by 4 trillion. that s the real fake news we live in, which is the false equivalency of someone saying actual live the debt went up a little bit. they will say that everybody is getting the same health insurance. they will say that medicaid
hardball roundtable. molly, tell me something i don t know. you talked earlier about the slow motion establishment freakout over donald trump who i really hear the republican establishment freaking out about right now is ted cruz. he had see him being strategic, they see his rise and fear trump is making him look reasonable to a lot of people. smart. a terrible nominee. they fear him just as much as trump. the trump people like him. yes, there are problems with the affordable care act but there are two nuggets out that show that it is indeed working. first one is that we are at the lowest point of uninsured ever. since they ve been keeping numbers. 10.4% uninsured in 2014 and in the early part of 2015, it s down by 2. who is not benefiting, who is left out in the cold? people living in states where medicaid hasn t been expanded and the second thing is, the 80/20 rule where insurance companies have to rebate, have to spend 80% of their money on care.