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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:07:00

In his behavior on moving to federal court, that pulls all of the other 18 defendants in the georgia case with mr. meadows into federal court. that s a really tricky issue. meadows is trying to do the best he can, because he thinks that will be a better jury pool for him and just a better venue. one would think that these questions about whether he was pursuing his official duty or not, these are tricky issues. however, in trying to prove that s what he was doing, he provided a lot of details about these calls, about his involvement in them, and it s a sort of side effect of the more procedural aspects of the case that we re learning more about the substance. what does it tell you about how many these people strenuously insisted they were defending principles of secrecy, separation of powers and suddenly i guess they re not. there s a kind of irony here that previously we were hearing

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