sake. they re not talking about the budget or the millions of americans who will lose paychecks in a government shutdown, including members of the military and air traffic controllers and tsa workers. instead, the house gop is focused on hunter biden, spending this entire thursday morning and afternoon, again, just two days before the government shuts down on saturday to open their impeachment inquiry into his dad, the president. they re looking into hunter biden as well. we ask, is this time well spent. joining us now capitol hill correspondent ali vitali, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, and punch bowl news cofounder and msnbc political contribute jake sherman. there are 52 hours or so before the government shuts down. is there anything else happening that we re not currently watching on television? no, not really. there are a couple of things worth noting. number one, the senate is trying its best to cobble together a border security packa
And so that is what we are doing now. we are trying to make sure tha we continue this pursuit of more perfect union, and jo biden demonstrated for the las two years and three months tha he has the capacity and he has the vision, he has the compassion and yes, he has the substance. this is about substance over style. congressman, you are a wily politician does make me very happy that you we can very easily trick you into - so i always appreciate that yo are always ready to go with little bit of history. let s talk for second abou what you are up against no versus 2020. what are the challenges, including the fact that jo biden, for all the things yo just described, struggles in polls with getting popularit amongst americans. it certainly, in the midterm
Substance over style congressman, you are a wily politician i have to say, it does make me happy that i can very easily trick you into a history parable and giving me alexis d tocqueville, so i always appreciate that you are always ready to go with a little bi of history let s talk for a second abou what you are up against no versus 2020. what are the challenges, including the fact that jo biden, for all the things yo just described, struggles in polls with gaining popularit amongst americans. it certainly, in the midterm elections people thought that would hurt and it didn t hurt all tha much. but what are you u against as the co-chair of the 2024 campaign? well, that is still a problem that s why i keep talking abou substance over style. th problem we have in the country today is that people are committed to soundbites. too many people judge your performance based upon the soundbites that you get hits
Moderate districts are going t go to a town meeting later and say, oh, well, because the speaker asked me i voted to cu aid to children with disabilities by half over th next decade. i voted to cut cancer research i cut it by half, by law enforcement. i mean, people will get that i you are cutting border securit and preschool and meals on wheels by half, that is very extreme. and what for for an extremist symboli vote it is very odd to me tha people would take that risk, but even more odd, and mor troubling substantively, and i would think they would think politically, to look like yo are willing to play defaul brinkmanship on my way - or default type of threat. jeanne, good to see you a always thank you for joining us genes for. laying another day breakin news in the world of defendant trump coming up, what we learn from the transcripts of day on of - the civil rape trial against
Ronald reagan even for a time, george w. bush, barack obama, lot of the presidents who went on to win a second term didn t look exceedingly strong this time and their election cycle. let me ask you about this very wise thing you set. don t make a referendum, mak it a choice. and again, when i lost election, that was, i want to be easy, because it was easy to win a election, but it was easy to make it a choice between joe biden and what donald trum stood for. and it may be easy to do tha again in 2024. , it is not. in other words, if it is wha these other people, does i become more of a referendum? do they make it more of referendum on joe biden? well, you have to turn it into a choice. , one of the governor fits o an incumbent premise didn t no having a serious primary and not having lots of time, because we know the republican nominee and a year from now, 1 months from now, 14 months rachel