Were talking to you that the White House Historical associations here in washington d. C. We are here because you work with the organization while so you descend then two president s. Tell me your family story well im related to over cleveland whos the 22nd and 24 United States president and on my father side on the paternal side of William Mckinley in the Great Britain few William Mckinley and the great great grandson over cleveland. How did those two families get together . Its half a chance because my parents married and the two became one. Interesting lee enough we are parents aware of their lineage when they were married . Had no clue. My father was a longtime history professor at uja. So there over the course of time, at breakfast day when we talked about president ial politics. We talked about president ial descendants we learned so many stories about both families from those conversations that i had with him. Two are very different today . They are they are. Absolutely. Lets ta