make rosen head of the justice department and have the the eastman memo lays this out and it will get thrown to the house or whatever. it s more of a plot, more of a plan. it s a somewhat chaotic and haphazard plan maybe but it s a plan. violence and pressure is part of it, what happened with the electors is part of it, the eastman memo is part of it, doj, dod is part if the and the combination of the january 6 committee and the justice department are beginning to expose this in a way we didn t quite know before. all very important points on more than one dimension. bill and joyce, thanks to both of you. we have a break, but i m about to show you coming up a tape we ve been putting together that really shows why the investigators want gop leader mccarthy to come clean. and a big development in the matt gaetz sex trafficking probe. we have an expert here. at the end of the hour as promised we have a special conversation with david byrne.