to prosecute. them if they don t comply, they will have to be arrested. that is the only way we re gonna get this information. here s the thing, steve bannon is not showing up for this deposition, he doesn t care that executive privilege doesn t apply. they will stall they will claim executive privilege, they will claim some other type of privilege, and they are not playing by the same set rules. and the only way to get their attention is to go ahead and use criminal contempt. otherwise, this will just go the same way as every other investigation has gone in the congress. so many things going on susan, wow, frankly, nancy pelosi has to get the sausage made. she s gotta figure out how she s gonna wrangle this time even though she is known as a master wrangler. you wrote a book about her. what is your take on how she will approach this drama on capitol hill and how, and if,
infrastructure and safety net bills done. nancy pelosi is a master wrangler, and despite other reports to dontrary said yesterday, our work s almost done, but no breakthroughs were announced after president biden met with 23 lawmakers. joining me now is one of them, mark pocan. good to see you, congress machblt what did you hear from the president, and did it help these meetings? thanks for having me on. we strongly are behind the president s build back better agent day it s going help those across the country. how are you going to get it done? we re going to get it done the when doesn t matter. the what matters. i think what we want to do is make sure universal child care, community college, expansion of health care and all the benefits are going to be there for working families as well as the