You develop a really strong case. and what donald trump has wielded so far, both when i was in the special counsel mueller investigation, and even now, is this idea of, don t worry, i have your back. i can pardon anyone like mark roger stone, michael flynn. but here for state charges, he does not have that ability. it will be interested to see who else if, anyone is charged, and what and you alluded to the idea that that was a fortification your team could not have under mueller? when we couldn t charge the president under doj policy. but we had to deal with the dangling of pardons because we were not dealing with federal cases. and not only did we have the dangling of pardons, we have the actual bestowing of pardons. and almost every single person in our investigation who didn t cooperate. there were those people who cooperated, but did not get pardons. and there is people who, you know, essentially were tough,