For president nixon s benefit while he was president richard nixon s white house chief of staff. eight months after, richard nixon resigned the presidency. his former vice president became president, gerald ford, pardoned richard nixon for all of the crimes he committed during his presidency, so richard nixon never went to trial for those crimes. but his white house chief of staff went to trial for. years later, in an interview, richard nixon insisted on a version of the legal theory that mark meadows is relying on now. when the president does it, that means it is not illegal. by definition. exactly. in other mark meadows a news, abc is reporting that mark meadows told jack smith s investigators that he does not recall donald trump, quote, ever ordering or even
by definition. exactly. in other mark meadows a news, abc is reporting that mark meadows told jack smith s investigators that he does not recall donald trump, quote, ever ordering or even discussing the classified broad sense of classified material before leaving the white house, nor was he aware of any standing order from trump authorizing the automatic declassification materials sources familiar with the matter tell abc news. meadows also told investigators that he was not involved in packing the boxes that trump took to mar-a-lago after leaving the white house. leading off our discussion tonight is andrew weissmann, a former fbi general counsel, former chief of the criminal division at the eastern district of new york. he is a professor and why you lost school and co-host of the prosecuting donald trump podcasts and msnbc legal analysts. and neal katyal, former acting u.s. attorney general and host of the podcast courtside with neil castillo. andrew weizmann, i want to go to