logan. eric: that s a propaganda film taken by the north koreans. do we know what happened to him? we know the soviets distributed a still of logan taken from that video that s available or approximately the same time. so there is a good indication that he did survive and he is somewhere there or died in captivity. but we need to know. i don t expect some minor official to know. but if we asked question every single time, the chinese will get the point. eric: you think as many as 800. gilbert ashley, his b59 was shot down. and you mentioned mark far asr. here is a report from the north korean committee saying quote in 1951 early in the negotiating