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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

accomplished. i am a professor, i am trying to seek a meaningful life. she had a prestigious career, a loving husband, a young daughter, but she also had a secret. i lived with this nightmare for 18 years. and it centered on murder. they followed him, they kidnapped him, and then they dumped his body. it was clearly planned. but did she? no i was in complete shock. they were dangerous and they were violent. why did she do it? i didn t realize she was involved as deep as she was. scholar, professor, mother. what is going to happen to my daughter? she certainly knew. she is a killer in your eyes? yes. everything was at stake. i could face life in prison, i am willing to do anything that needs to be done. now, i have the strength. she was the embodiment of the american dream, an immigrant who described a childhood of poverty and abuse. attended elite schools and rose to the top of her field. against all odds, norma patricia esparza became the well

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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240707

i am a professor, i am trying to seek a meaningful life. she had a prestigious career, a loving husband, a young daughter, but she also had a secret. i lived with this nightmare for 18 years. and it centered on murder. they followed him, they kidnapped him, and then they dumped his body. it was clearly planned. but did she know? i was in complete shock. they were dangerous and they were violent. why did she do it? i didn t realize she was involved as deep as she was. scholar, professor, mother. what is going to happen to my daughter? she certainly knew. she is a killer in your eyes? yes. everything was at stake. i could face life in prison, i am willing to do anything that needs to be done. now, i have the strength. she was the embodiment of the american dream, an immigrant who described a childhood of poverty and abuse. attended elite schools and rose to the top of her field. against all odds, norma patricia esparza became the well-respected p

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Transcripts For MSNBCW Dateline 20240703

Educated, accomplished. I am a professor, i tried to seek a Meaningful Life. Reporter she had a prestigious career, a loving husband, a young daughter. But she also had a secret. I have lived at this nightmare for 18 years. It is 7 murder. They followed him, they kidnapped him and then they dumped his body. It was clearly a plan. Plan. I didnt realize she was involved as deep as she was. Narrator scholar, professor, mother. What is going to happen to my daughter . I am innocent. She certainly knew. Manipulative, in your eyes . Uh, yes. Narrator everything was at stake. She certainly knew. Manipulative in your eyes . Yes. Everything was at stake. I could face life in prison, i am willing to do anything that needs to be done, now i have the strength. Attended Elite Schools, and rose to the top of her field. She was the embodiment of the American Dream, an immigrant who escaped a childhood of poverty and abuse, attended Elite Schools and rose to the top of her field. Against all odds, Nor

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:36:00

guy? you tell me right now, you tell me why you re not the guy, and why you should not be going to jail for murder. because i m not an angry type of person. i ve always been a loving person. i m not quick to have a temper, and i would never think of such a thing. that s absurd. everything is there, we have the motive. do you see gianni, i am right at this point, at this junction of the interview. it s coming to a close. now, if you don t come out and give me more, gianni, you re going to be going to jail. for murder. okay. i don t know about anything. i swear to god. i don t know anything about what you re talking about. despite his denials, in march of 1996, nearly a year after the body was found, detectives arrested gianni van, for the murder of gonzalo ramirez. but, what investigators did not know, was patricia had more secrets. that would have a big impact on

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:36:00

type of person. i ve always been a loving person. i m not quick to have a temper, and i would never think of such a thing. that s absurd. everything is there, we have the motive. do you see gianni, i am right at this point, at this junction of the interview. it s coming to a close. now, if you don t come out and give me more, gianni, you re going to be going to jail. for murder. okay. i don t know about anything. i swear to god. i don t know anything about what you re talking about. despite his denials, in march of 1996, nearly a year after the body was found, detectives arrested gianni van, for the murder of gonzalo ramirez. but, what investigators did not know, was patricia had more secrets. that would have a big impact on their case. coming up. i feared for my life. patricia and gianni, their relationship was far from over.

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