and the passion. he actually seems to be using proxyings with regard to the iowa state fair and matt gaetz, congressman standing next to him last weekend saying we only get change through force, right, and trump s nodding his head, using proxies and surrogates to do this. here s good news, we re not seeing, i m not seeing in known extremist sites, people planning in a big way to do some harm to this event. what i tell my friends in law enforcement is they re in for a marathon on security posture. this is not a sprint. let s not overfocus on one event happening tonight. let s realize the trials are going to take place over a protracted period, which requires a protracted security posture. i want to play part of an exchange between trump and tucker carlson last night because it does kind of get to the bigger picture we re in right now. let s take a listen. so do you think it s possible that there s open conflict? i don t know.