Investigation would soon be winding down. However, there are signs to the contrary. Axios is reporting that, quote, members of Robert Muellers team are reaching out to former Republican National Committee Staff who were familiar with the digital campaign. The goal is to determine if the joint effort was related to the activities of russian trolls and bots aimed at affecting the american electorate. Ty cobb said all of the interviews with the special team are over. However, former colleague said i would be shocked if he was done with the inner circle. All of these indictments, guilty pleas and interviews could be round one. Joining me is Jonathan Swan with acti axios. Thanks to all of you for joining. Barry, the resident former prosecutor here, let me start with you. You have this report from the Washington Post saying that if
point is that its a question that a lot of people close to the situation are asking themselves is why did mueller allow for this prosecutorial vulnerability . Bec
interviews seem to be coming towards an end. but i much point out, a later end than trump s lawyers suggested. we don t know because there s a counter intelligence dimension that we don t have enough visibility into. shepard: there s this russian meddling part. there s a collusion part that presumably we don t know much about and a money laundering part. yes? yes. when i talked to ty cobb about this late last year, he said our part of the investigation, the white house part, that will be done by the end of january. of course, that s not true. but what he said to me, he said if you put aside they couldn t call them the manafort silo and the flynn silo. he said those two silos, i can see them continuing on another year or so. as for our portion, nothing to see here. the white house part is done. we know that s not true.
well, you have to separate ty cobb, you know, the legal team from the people inside the white house who really know nothing and they re just listening to the legal team with varying degrees of skepticism and you have people outside many of whom are more pessimistic. i spoke to ty cobb and the way he laid it out was he said, yeah, the investigation will continue. he uses the word silos. he says there are two silos, the flynn silo and the manafort silo. they will continue. the white house, that will all be wrapped up and he s moved the time line. he initially said thanksgiving and the end of the year. the last time i spoke to ty cobb he said early next year. i can tell you once you go one ring out from that there is a lot of skepticism that this will be cleanly wrapped up with a bow by the ind end of january. julia, the other wild card is put yourself in the shoes of michael flynn. his brother on twitter the other day saying, mr. president, pardon my brother. you had trump until now