Do this? we would get those sorts of missiles from? yeah, absolutely sorts of missiles from? yeah, absolutely they sorts of missiles from? yeah, absolutely they have - sorts of missiles from? yeah, absolutely they have the - absolutely they have the capability and i m actually fine with people believing that they didn t do it because no matter what, the russian fleet will stay back further from the coast and not knowing where it came from and how it came from, call it a storm or call it what you will, yes, they had land based cruise missiles capable of bringing down this ship if it was doing bad military tactics which we have seen russia just defying logic with some of the military things so evidently this transfers over to naval wa rfa re, transfers over to naval warfare, allowing the premier flagship to be by itself. no matter what, yes they had to get mobility. do i care if people believe they did it? a little bit. ., people believe they did it? a little bit. . ., , ., ., g ., l
To majorjohn spencer, who s chair of urban warfare studies at the madison policy forum in the united states. i asked him for his reaction to the news about the sinking of the moskva. i think it is huge, i don t think it isjust i think it is huge, i don t think it is just symbolic. that was a saliva class cruiser. i don t care who you believe, the fact that it sunk, it is sitting at the bottom of the black sea, it was the linchpin to come under control, to air defence of the black sea fleet, it s not symbolic, this is huge. i put it on the level of basically the defeat of russia from taking care of, it is that level of event and it would be huge to putin, to his new theatre commander, this is, i am celebrating, this is huge. major spencer, just to say how do you see the russians react into this and what do they do next, whether go from here? i am very concerned about that
Of russia and ukraine are. on the one hand, you ve got president zelensky trying to get his message out to the world, giving interviews to western journalists. vladimir putin hasn t given interviews to the western media since russia attacked ukraine. but there s one thing the two men have in common publicly, at least, they both insist they re going to win. steve rosenberg there. let s get more now on those ukrainian and russian claims and counter claims about what s happening on the ground. joining me from colorado springs is chair of urban warfare studies at the madison policy forum, majorjohn spencer. it s great to get you on the programme, major spencer. iwant it s great to get you on the programme, major spencer. i want to ask you about your reaction to the news that the moskva has now sunk. how damaging is this for the russian military s capabilities? i how damaging is this for the russian military s capabilities? military s capabilities? i think it s huge- military s capabil
From. call it what you will, but they had land based cruises missiles capable of bringing down this ship. we have seen russia just the flying logic and some of the military things, so, allowing this from your flagship to be by itself premier flagship. they had the capability. do i care people believe they did it? a little bit. it? a little bit. thank you so much for “oininu it? a little bit. thank you so much forjoining us it? a little bit. thank you so much forjoining us with it? a little bit. thank you so much forjoining us with your it? a little bit. thank you so much forjoining us with your thoughts, | forjoining us with your thoughts, majorjohn spencer. in other news from ukraine, a british man has reportedly been captured while fighting against russia. the family of aiden aslin has appealed for him to be treated humanely after russian media said he had been captured in the beseiged city of mariupol. he has appeared in photos and
Dismissed fears that some of these weapons could end up with criminals and terrorists. president putin has made it clear what he intends to do with any anti aircraft missiles his forces captured from the ukrainians. the kremlin s position towards ukraine has barely moved since the day this invasion began, two and a half weeks ago. this war can stop when you want it to, you just need to lay down your arms, surrender, give in to all our demands and forget about being a part of western europe. frank gardner, bbc news. us army retired majorjohn spencer is the chair of urban warfare studies at, madison policy forum and the author of connected soldiers. he joins us from colarado.