moderate democrats who have been less visible to be sure, but you ve got the maggie hassan s, you ve got virginia, nevada, arizona, i mean, there s no enthusiasm for this. but look, manchin cannot be bought off, he cannot be rolled. he told chuck schumer in june of last year, right, the memo, they both signed a memo and schumer ignored it and i thought that was a terrific mistake, and the white house has tried to roll manchin, pelosi has tried to roll manchin. the guy is a strong guy, i think he s exactly right on the issues, and he has a lot of integrity, and incidentally, the voters of west virginia perhaps most importantly are loudly cheering him. his numbers his favorables have practically doubled since the whole budget battle. he s supposed to represent the people of west virginia and the national story and like i say,