Southern coast of ukraine in the future- the future. is it fair to say this is a the future. is it fair to say this is a sort the future. is it fair to say this is a sort of the future. is it fair to say this is a sort of defining . this is a sort of defining moment in this war? is that the point at which the russians begin to retreat and acknowledge some kind of defeat in their action? i acknowledge some kind of defeat in their action? in their action? i don t think so. i in their action? i don t think so- i think in their action? i don t think so. i think the in their action? i don t think so. i think the ukrainians i in their action? i don t think. so. i think the ukrainians have to defeat russians on the ground. the russians are giving every indication that they will mild mac launch an invasion in the donbas region. i don t think the loss of moskva, humiliating it may be, will transform the military situation or convince president putin that it s a bad idea to continue.