Across much of the country, which all raises the question, how much longer could this war last? nato s secretary-general said on thursday the alliance should be in it for the long haul. we need to be prepared for the long term. it s a very unpredictable and fragile situation in ukraine, but there s absolutely the possibility that this war will drag on and last for months and years. now, for more, i m joined by liana fix, a program director and expert on russia at the kerber foundation. she s joining me from berlin. thanks for being up early for us. an important issue. at the moment, after nearly two months, neither side has what it wants, of course. you could wroe a fascinating article about the chances of a protracted conflict. what are the risks of that, and how might a long war benefit