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to roll the dice and gamble. i think the question of a pardon is huge. and intimidating to the whole process here and the president is wise to step back and not do that because the act of that and interesting to see. the mueller team can look at that as destructive conduct. in these circumstances what is best for him and, honestly, the best thing to do is not to plead but to cooperate, as well. reverend al sharpton who is one of the few people that michael cohen has reached out to to discuss where his head is at but right now where his head is at but what about exactly is going to happen. he has come to an agreement with the prosecutors in the southern district of new york. that is not the mueller investigation. we need to figure out what role the mueller investigation is going to have in this agreement. in the end, this all has to be presented to a federal judge,
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Another room, but they don t have access to leave, like they can t go in the hallway because the shooter is active. so they may not be shot. may not be wounded, but they may just be trapped. the squad commandler have to deal with that. that was an early report. i don t know if aaron and his team in philly have verified it. it s a big issue for s.w.a.t. command. also, any other people who might be wounded in there could be bleeding. so there is a critical time frame here as well. thank you so much, jim cavanaugh. let s go to tom winter. tom, what are your sources telling you? a little bit of late information here. first off have i the answer to jim s question as to clorpt there are officers inside of that house or whether there are any injured. there are no injured officers inside the house. as far as whether or not there are still officers hold up inside, that s information i m aware of. but with respect to the ongoing law enforcement situation and officer safety, i m not going to
Officers working this case across the country. but as you just suggested, another device has been found. so we have an exception to advising someone of their rights. right now, if i was one of the agents talking to this guy, i would realize the potential for more devices, perhaps more functional devices were out there so i would be working very hard to get this guy to tell me how many devices that he built, how many were out there, where is his bomb making factory? this still presents a tremendous danger to the public. let s go to tom winter. can they do that? we see in the movies, arrest somebody, read them the rights and a right to remain sigh lent. if you re part of an investigation and more devices out there, how do you handle it? there s a public safety exception that law enforcement can use. it was used most notably and famously recently in the boston marathon case.
I left trump land and that i m serious about doing things. because stephanopoulos who he met with and hosting and also comes out of the clinton political world. and me who has marched on donald trump, you couldn t send more of a message to both sides than that. let s go to tom winter outside the federal court now. he has been covering this since it broke. tom, we re getting new details on the 4:00 p.m. michael cohen hearing. what do you know? ali, my understanding is this will last an hour, perhaps an hour and a half. michael cohen will say exactly what it is that he did and what he is pleading guilty to today. that is kind of our basic understanding at this point. obviously, once we get inside of the courthouse and the courtroom, which is going to be held on the 20th floor of the building right behind me here, we ll get a little bit of a better sense of kind of the run
New york. so that long gun is definitely something that would be more of an aberration as opposed to the norm. darren, stand by for a second. i want to listen in to an eyewitness on wnbc. thank you so much for talking with us. actually, there are a lot of people there s a lot of people who were just here watching the scene. but we have spoken to many people who have friends, who have family inside the hospital. employees, patients. right now they re waiting for word. of course, though we have heard the situation is over. we have heard that five people have been shot. so we re trying to get word on the condition of those people, the identify of those people. so a lot of people have told us they re just waiting, they re calling their loved ones. just trying to get some information out here. so right now, that s the scene. we re live right now outside the hospital. michael george, news 4 new york. let s go to tom winter, nbc investigative reporter who has been getting more informa