new wall street journal poll says that in a hypothetical gop primary match up, desantis beats the former president 52% to 38%. yay? also maybe boo. it s hard to know who to root for here. okay. welcome back to morning joe. hour two, guys, it s thursday, december 15th. just a beautiful sunrise over new york city, by the way. it s 7:00 a.m. there as we look at the comcast building, of course mika s penthouse. if you re not up, time to get up. let s go, let s work out. jonathan lemire and jen palmieri are still with us. thought she was going to get a shuttle to come up to new york. that s next hour. she ll still have time. and joining the conversation, we have professor at princeton
longer the head football coach, effective immediately. what do you make of these scenes we re looking at? over the last few days, there was so much passion on both sides of the issue. so many of the students that were there supported joe paterno, really felt like this was a man they had looked up to for so many years, that s why it s so hard for them to take some of this news. even so, in terms of what joe paterno was like, and some of the things he was saying in front of his home. thanking the students for coming out. these types of things, you have to imagine, this is not the type of activity joe paterno would want to see. if you think about the type of man that he is, this is a man that stood for so much. he insisted that his athletes have good grades, he set a high standard, a high bar, so to see students acting in a way that might be rowdy or acting in a way that would some ways disrespect the university, really goes against what in many ways, joe paterno stood for f
saturday s nebraska game. that is part of the controversy. he said he s stepping down but not immediately, not until the end of the season. in a statement today he said paterno, who is the nearest thing to a secular saint in pennsylvania and hero to his players drew their praise today for his decision. i think as long as he s been here, he hasn t really ever made a wrong decision. he knows what he s doing. he s been doing it for so long. if he thinks it s best for the program, chances are it s going to be the best thing for the program. more and more as you ll see, people have doubts about his decision now not to immediately step down. here s former penn state legend matt millen today on espn. to be honest with you, and you can probably hear it, and i apologize to you, i get mad. it s it s pretty disturbing. it makes you sick. to see that this could happen to this level, if, in fact, it has happened, then, you know, there s a part of me that, like i mentioned earlie
victimize children for many, many years. in total, he forces 40 charges tied to sexual assault. curley and schultz are charged with failing to report abuse and graham spanier is under pressure to retire and joe paterno announced that he will retire at the end of the season saying in a statement, this is a tragedy. it s one of the great sorrows of my life with the benefit of hindsight i wish i had done more. jason carroll, cnn, state college, pennsylvania. if you re just joining us, breaking news, joe paterno and graham spanier have both lost their jobs. the university board of trustees made the announcement less than an hour ago. the board of trustees and graham spanier have announced that dr. spanier is no longer president of the university. in addition, joe paterno is no longer the head football coach effecti effective immediately. well, joining us now, cnn s jason carroll and mike galanos. if i can start with you, mike, describe what you re seeing. set the scene. w
really goes against what in many ways joe paterno stood for for some 46 years while he was there coaching there at penn state. mike, we ve established contact with you now. galanos, what are you seeing now? where are these students going? reporter: they are headed to beaver avenue and they are flocking to that place. i was just talking to a student minutes ago and that s what happens. everyone is flocking to beaver avenue because they were behind the pictures that you re looking@the old main building and all of a sudden they made a dash for it and now they are assembling it at beaver avenue. we are going to head over there to see what happened. i can imagine the chance will continue. we want joe back. talking about joe he paterno and just straight up chanting joe paterno s name. i mean, every student i ve talked to today once again they are in support of him staying on as coach. i don t think any of these students thought this would happen this day, that joe paterno, thei