there are eight rose bowls full of illegal immigrants that came across the border just since october 1st, mr. secretary. bret, the numbers are historic. the numbers are extraordinarily large. this is something that is not specific to the united states southern border. bret: but you think it is a crisis now? bret, it is a challenge that we have been addressing vigorously with all the tools and resources we have been provided. bill: a challenge, not a crisis. his hands are tied, don t blame us. those were the answers from secretary mayorkas saying there is nothing more he can do on the border. illegal migrants totally unchecked one after the other. good morning, it s friday. you ve almost made it. 9:00 a.m. in new york. i m bill hemmer. dana: can i say one thing about that interview? peter and i watched it last night. peter is from europe. when mayorkas mayorkas said this is not a problem not unique to america. he is talking about the scope and scale. it is so differe
so now here s what we know. the balloon is about 200 feet high, the pay load, which you saw suspended beneath it to gather intelligence was about the size of a jetliner. that debris, which is expected to include glass solar panels was spread out over the size of 15 football fields. may have included battery material, explosives that would detonate that vehicle. the pieces now on their way, some of them, to the fbi lab at quantico for analysis. so there s a lot of discussion about how this thing was brought down and whether or not it maximized our ability to understand what it was and what was in it. as i mentioned, we re watching the white house. the press briefing is john going. we re waiting for fresh answers about what happened up there, new reaction. china says there might be a further response merited for the united states from our taking this out of the sky over the weekend. today fox news spoke with the gentleman who disclosed that this was up there in the sky without
Number. i hope i got all that out. bill: i was watching your colleagues on fox business, participation went down, not a good sign. of the government jobs, when you add 52,000 that s part of the big number here. what does it say about the private sector, larry? well, the private sector is pretty much been flat. that s one of the themes of this year. i will have to look, bill, when i get catch a breath and i will look at the 12-month changes for all of 2023. but i think what you are going to see is the leader will either be government jobs or leisure jobs. there is nothing wrong with leisure jobs, it shows post covid consumer spending with a lot of credit card borrowing thrown in and healthcare jobs, social services, which are the near cousin to government jobs.
Employment to population is lower than it was in february of 2020. participation is lower than it was in 2020. yeah, you know what? by the way, leisure jobs, yeah, we ll keep getting leisure jobs. we retrained the entire work force to work at a different level. by the way, unrealistic. it won t work long-term. there s competition between the united states and china. that s not going to cut it long-term. a real quick thought? that poll that we entered with, the people that are off now, one of the biggest increases is those ages 18 to 39. that got me thinking, you re who is going to pay off your college? the white house is talking ant china. let s listen to this. be calm, resolute and practical. that is not going to change on how we re going to move forward with our relationship with china, with our diplomatic conversations as we move beyond