saying you made mauchb them. i created thousands of jobs and finance thousands of healthcare providers including rural hospitals and deliver care. senator sanders is a socialist in many ways. he doesn t like the private economy. i believe in entrepreneurs and capitalism. one thing he slipped in is he wants the health care industry to be non-profit. what does that say to physicians and people who have engaged in for profit health care delivering good service. more of a socialist tonight than usual? sfwl not liking the private economy. let s talk about the answer that he accused jake tapper who did a great job tonight of using a republican talking point. is it a republican talking point to ask for something cost? yes. are you allowed to ask taxes go up in a medicare for a lifetime? it was a great question.
voters of color tend to be to the left of the democratic party. they tend they re more pragmatic. african-american voters just want to win. and elizabeth warren in the spin room. the things that touched their lives every single day. 2020 is not just about determining the direction of this country for four years or eight years, it s about generations to come. and we need to say as democrats that we get it and here s our vision for how we re going to do it. senator, the question of costs for medicare for all, you were asked whether people s middle class taxes would go up. you said their costs would go down, but can you address directly whether taxes like mine will go up? i ll say it again. costs will go up for billionaires, they ll go up for corporations and costs for middle class families will go down. it s costs that matter. i spent my life studying why
you had some saying that you will lose employer-sponsored insurance. tens of millions of americans have that. many like it. others were saying, well, we only need to make marginal changes to the affordable care act which would leave out millions of our fellow americans from being able to see a doctor. our path, medicare for mech, says that if you re not insured we ll enroll new medicare. if you can t afford the insurance you have your co-pays or premiums we can enroll you in medicare but if you like the employer sponsored insurance you have, if you re a member of a union who fought for that, you re able to keep it und iter our plan. again, not to give a republican talking point but how much will it cost and who s paying? you know, when this was scored, from a bill that was introduced by members of congress it was around $5 trillion over ten years. our version may be more expensive because we also include long-term care for the first time. so the very wealthiest in this country, cor
government can do it, but there s also the fact there s a certain degree that if democrats want to do big things, and i think a lot of them want, to particularly as the climate crisis bears down on us, you have to find some way to engineer not only the trust but the capacity to do things and the only proof of the pudding is in the eating. so we re back to my question for senator mccaskill, and that is how are you going to go to youngstown and say your union plan, i know you re happy with it but i m going to replace it. i think you re going to how do you make that? you convince people there will be something better at the end of the day. the reason people like medicare. the republicans have tried to privatize and voucherize medicare time and time again. they had unified control of government and they couldn t do it. why couldn t they do it? people like medicare. medicare s one of the most popular things the government does. but i ve got to be honest with you, and part of
it s a disconnect. is there an idealogical difference between you and bernie, for example? is there an idealogical difference? i think on some of these issues, there are. i m for government doing positive things, too, but you can t take someone s private insurance away from them. as i explained, they re union members who negotiated the contracts who said, we re not going to take some of these wages but we re going to pay for health care. everyone pays into medicare. someone follows the law or you go to jail, right? you pay it for 50 years, and if you live longer than that, you get it for coverage. the bernie plan, you get it your wheel life with no tax increase. no tax increase, no co-pays, no premiums. i support everybody having health care. i took the lumps with obamacare. i supported a public option with obamacare, but we ve got to find something that s going to get enough votes in the senate to actually move the needle.