of russia to come back after war, makes a lot of sense to me. russia s foreign minister is already accusing nato of engaging in a proxy war, something secretary austin denied. are you concerned about the repercussions of that? yeah, i don t think we re waging a proxy war. the war that s being waged is by the ukrainians who are trying to defend their territory from the very country that mr. lavrov represents. had russia not invaded ukraine in 2014 and had it certainly not escalated that invasion just a few weeks ago, we wouldn t be talking about arming the ukrainians and the degree to which we re talking now. the fault really lies with moscow, and you start blaming washington or nato or the west for what is a blatant violation of international law, just isn t acceptable. germany also announced they re going to send heavy hardware, dozens of armored