closing retailer vineyard vines is taking lake shirts to court for copyright and infringement. lake shirt whale design sold in maine and florida is strikingly similar to their whale logo. to similar, they argue. let s bring in former u.s. attorney harry litman and washington, d.c., trial attorney joe cammarata. thank you both for being with us. thank you. thanks for having me. shannon: people know, exhibit a, the two whale designs, you can see whether you think they are too similar or not, but let s take you to the complaint. it says such mimicry is likely to lead to confusion as to the source, sponsorship, or other commercial and affiliation of the clothing with vineyard vines and its clothing goods. harry? that has to be the question. these guys, shannon, are on whale watch all over the country. they are repeat players. they sue everybody, including here, the suit they dropped