certified president again if one of them as a power to obstruct via the kit chamber of congress. jim do you agree with that, given what you said about the fact that those folks have got along with the big lie, they haven t been marginalized, they ve been essentially boosted. by the fact that they are components of that lie. how do you go forward with limiting the influence of those republicans s participate in allied that really as don put, it puts america s democracy are whisk in future elections? yes, it s news to me that the communications guy, because pretty news he s pretty good to me for someone who s not a communications. i basically agree with. in this little bit of doing gloom, associated with the never again will there be election i at least speaking for myself have to have more humility my permissions could ve been sober in the past was to my predictions. i think in the near term, we can look at is 2024, i think