to overwhelm barricades and police and strategically provide cover for them, so when trump was exhorting his followers to go to the capitol to, you know, march on these legislators, he was at least indirectly helping this event unfold so i think mccarthy definitely needs to clarify what he meant when he was saying that trump is responsible. and in that same kerm radio interview, norm, mccarthy also said he spoke to the president during the riot, calling on him to bring in the national guard. since he discussed the contents of those conversations publicly, norm, can his house colleagues force him to testify? what are the next steps? well, it is customary when there is a matter of urgency for the house, the usual example is ethics violations, ana, for the