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Transcripts For MSNBC Velshi 20240706

they shot at everyone. you can see the trees yeah, in the trees, it s everywhere. on april, two, i came here as well, already in bucha self. and the first place, i was here on this square. and here i can show you photos, i have photos of my library. you was one car with a killed man inside. that was a man who worked in bucha for, like, park maintenance, and humor was trying to take wounded people to the hospital. and he transported several, then he again came back. he was killed right here by russians. there was a car with his buddy inside. and here was another car which he just smashed with a person inside. oh my gosh, there was a person inside? yeah, yeah, powerful. if you are pointing out the bullet tore holes in the trees, it looks normal. it looks normal, right. it looks like a suburban community. people going about their business. it s early morning now. you can see traffic is happening. explain that to me because when you are in kyiv it looks normal and

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:17:00

Katie fang is standing by. so, our panel is going to stay, we ve got a lot going on. katie, you have been at the courthouse there in fulton county. you have plenty of legal experience, including as a prosecutor, what can you tell us just about what you are learning and seeing tonight? so, obviously, as you have mentioned, ari, there was the anticipation that this was gonna take two days. the fact that we have heard from one particular witness by the name of george chidi, who was supposed to testify tomorrow. but he indicated on social media that he has been told that he doesn t need to testify today, there should be some addition about the presentment of that case by d.a. fani willis. so, just for our viewers to understand, there are 23 members of the grand jury. the law requires that 16 of those 23 must be present for the entirety of the presentation of the prosecution s case. but that only takes 12 of those 23 grand jurors to be able to vote a charge through. i also want to let peo

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:55:00

Grand jury, the indictment is being walked over to judge mcburney. he just announced it to members of the media. once that happens, the defendants will be announced. the charges will be announced. however, the indictment itself will not be read out loud. what i mean by that, you won t actually have if it s a speaking indictment from what we ve heard, it will usually be anticipated in this instance, you won t actually be the indictment in its entirety being wet. however, we were made aware of who the defendant, or defendants, plural, will be. you re watching right now on your screen, that is a clerk who is receiving that. it has to be stamped and filed in into the court system, ari, and then it will be walked over to judge mcburney into his courtroom, at which point in time will be read as allowed by the judge. stay with us, katie. nicole and i were just discussing, we did not see any arraignment. this is a public process that

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:54:00

Back in on the visual, the transparency of it, the transparency of it. you held a job when you had to address the public on behalf of the government there was a tradition to that. for viewers watching, and some are familiar with some of the other elements we have covered. donald trump has now been arrested in government custody three times this year alone. but for the other ones, you know, there s a funny thing, sometimes we give it too much weight. the federal custom is just that, supreme court, federal courts, it s very closed, not very transparent. we are accustomed to waiting on court statements. what we are seeing tonight, this is different here, we are watching the footage of, let s see live who s walking in. this is more transparent, nicole, and do we have katy as well does katie one to weigh in on this? can you hear me? katie, go ahead. just watching the walk through from the clerk, i believe. yes, so the return from the

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:19:00

Which is a rarity as you and i both know. there s a level of transparency in the state that s going to reveal a lot of what happened in this case. yeah, katie, you walk us through several points. i would love for you to just elaborate a little bit more on the math you were doing. we hear so much about the trial process. and sometimes, again, it s important to distinguish, we hear the word jury. the jury, the people we see on television shows, 12 in the box, unanimous, you are reminding everyone that while every defendant is afforded that right, we are not reporting on a charge. but we know trump is a defendant in other cases. we know the jury trial, it appears, to convict it s unanimous. walk us through in more detail what you are explaining. i think it s more important tonight the reasons why many people have heard, oh, yes grand juries cannot indict even am sandwich, that maybe a slight overstatement. but the math that you said, it means that they won t have to win over every sure.

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