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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:30:00

Used to visit her. when she was bored, you would come in about twice a week and hang out. she remembers you used to wear tight abercrombie shirts and pants a little bit saggy you know with your underwear hanging down. hansen said he d come by gonterman s office after speaking with his mom, but he never showed up. so, gonterman gave him a call to see what was going on. [phone ringing] hello? hi, justin. hello. hi, it s detective jodi gonterman with the apd. how are you? i m doing okay. how about yourself? good. the call started off well enough, but the tone quickly changed. hansen said he felt targeted and outright refused to give a dna sample. i felt like the way you guys were coming at me was like no matter what i said. i was the person you were looking for and no one wants to be that. hansen ended the call demanding an apology. i d appreciate a call to hear an apology i ll apologize after i get your direct dna. detective gonterman had been investigating just

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:29:00

What they normally do, type thing, and just come and see you guys? absolutely. is that okay? yeah. what did you make of his demeanor that first time when you went to go see him? well, you know, he was friendly. he was acting like he was concerned, but it was almost an act. but then he wouldn t give his dna. we thought it was odd for a man of that age to say they wanted to talk to their mom. his wife is right there. he s, what, in his thirties and suddenly he s wantin to talk to his mom. and so we re like, is his mom a lawyer? and you know, just the whole thing seemed suddenly very odd and a big red flag, yeah. and he seemed like a bad actor yeah. when i spoke with him. it seemed like he was putting on an act. it wasn t genuine to me. before she left hansen s house, gonterman decided to rattle his cage by telling him, brittani s memory was finally starting to return. your statement doesn t match what she remembers. she remembers very well that you

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:36:00

His mcdonalds cup. and he drank it directly out of the cup. and when he walked out, the trash was pretty full, like, to the top. and he wrapped his own meal, his own trash nicely in the placemat that comes on your tray. so it was all separated from everything else. and so the undercover detective just walked right behind him and picked up picked it up. and the detectives took that trash straight to albuquerque police criminalist, alanna williams. i really did not have high hopes that this would be the individual that might match to our unknown person. she d already processed the dna of 17 potential suspects without a match. no reason to think number 18 would be any different. what was the results from this suspect, justin hansen? it was a complete match. after a nine-year investigation and 18 dna tests, john doe had finally been identified. it was justin

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:25:00

Green eyes. hansen was also a married father of four with no criminal convictions other than a dui. was this immediate for you? i have to run this down right now? or was it like, okay, i ll get to it. well, i said, okay, i m gonna set it aside, and i m gonna wait to contact him, because the more i had when i do an interview, the more information i have behind me is gonna be more helpful. justin hansen just didn t seem like a high priority, until three months later, january 3, 2017, when detective gonterman and sergeant thomson finally got the parabon dna report. dr. ellen greytak of parabon walked us through her dna analysis. this is the dna from the person who attacked brittani. yes, so this is from blood that was found at the crime scene, and so we find that this person, you know, has fairly fair skin. so this is a white male, as it s a fair-skinned male. fairly confident in that, and this person has sort of light

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:35:00

The attention of prosecutor david waymire and detective jodi gonterman, after brittani remembered his name, hansen was able to keep them at bay by simply refusing a dna test. so our district attorney suggested having him followed and getting his dna. and one of the main ways that that can be done is through things that a subject throws away. on april 3, 2017, six months after brittani told police about hansen, detective gonterman requested a couple of undercover officers to tail him. but by the time the request was approved, two months later, hansen had both moved and quit his job. police didn t know where he was. two more months passed before the surveillance team tracked hansen to his new job at this this body shop in north albuquerque. and they followed him to a mcdonalds. and they watched him eat. and he took the lid off of

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