can t be made enough. chief aide to mark meadows. exactly, to mark meadows, is that she overheard trump in the tent at the site of the rally, the quote/unquote stop the steal rally january 6th, saying that he didn t specific quote, i don t f ing care they have weapons. they re not here to hurt me. talking about all of the individuals in the crowd who had weapons and we heard testimony today that cassidy hutchinson had been told by secret service and others that those weapons included ar-15s and knives, et cetera. does that establish criminal intent? is that a smoking gun? you have identified a central moment because it s at that moment that we realized and we were able to show that donald trump knew that there were members of the crowd who were violent. armed, certainly. and who were refusing to lay down their arms to come in, which is why they weren t going through the metal detectors. he was saying he wanted the crowd all together. he said forget the mags. get rid o
encouraging. congressman schiff, one little divide in the both the written report and the public presentation today and today s public meeting. in terms of criminal referrals, there s four charges that congressman raskin today explicitly described as referrals to the justice department for potential prosecution of the former president. but then there s two additional charges including seditious conspiracy that are mentioned in the introduction to the report. they re separate. they re cast as something that the justice department should look into but they re sort of not described in the same way that those other four charges are. why was there that divide? what s the distinction between the four charges whether it is a referral and other two that you re essentially commending the doj for their attention? you know, i think the difference is this, with respect to the four charges that we enumerated and went through the evidence on it was very clear what the evidence was as to each e
parties so it shouldn t matter that much who is in the majority or minority next year. we would hope that it would operate in a nonpartisan fashion although i have to say the record of that committee in recent years has not been encouraging. f congressman schiff, one little divide in the both the written report and the public presentation today and today s public meeting. in terms of criminal referrals, there s four charges that congressman raskin today explicitly described as referrals to the justice department for potential prosecution of the former president. but then there s two additional charges including seditious conspiracy that are mentioned in the introduction to the report. they re separate. they re cast as something that the justice department should look into but they re sort of not described in the same way
implied threat. and i think part of what the committee might be doing in this circumstance is they know of these particular instances, that they put out publicly, and i think they want to know if other witnesses who have come before them have experienced these same things. part of what i think they re doing is they re communicating, hey, we know some of our witnesses are being threatened, and they want more people to come forward. what would help them, i think, make their decision about whether to refer this to the justice department for potential prosecution for witness tampering, is if this is a concerted effort, if they have multiple instances of it. the committee knows who is sending those notes to their witnesses. they re just not revealing that publicly. cassidy hutchinson testified today that white house counsel pat cipollone, very loyal trump official at the trump white house, said this to her on the morning of january 6th about not letting trump go to the capitol after the r
republicans didn t want to hear from him. and so, jeff clark didn t speak to them. but the house committee that s investigating the january 6th attack, they apparently do not have that problem. and so, clark is going to be coming in this day next week to speak to the january six investigation committee. progress. investig ation committee. and this news comes, of course, just as of the full house voted yesterday. all the democrats, and nine republicans, voted yesterday that another important witness for that investigation, maybe a subject of that investigation, i don t? now should be referred to the justice department for potential prosecution. that criminal referral of trump advisor steve bannon is now at the u.s. attorney s office in washington d.c.. they will considered independently, and make their own decision about whether to press charges, we are waiting to see if they will put steve ninan on trial in that manner. but again, the prospect of