ukraine had a statement about fighting corruption and mr. yermak would say burr mace in 2016. mr. yermak provided me a draft statement, and i wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to president trump and solve this problem that i d observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. the problem that he s getting a bad set of information, statement like this could potentially correct that. so was mr. giuliani satisfied with this statement? no, he was not. why not? he believed that it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, it would not mean anything new. so, in fact, mr. jewel yagiu wanted it to state burisma and
one specifically for president trump. mr. ambassador, here s the text you sent to the ukrainian official on august 13th, let s put that up on the screen. you said hi, andre. good talking. f
Investigate without spending time investigating a debunked conspiracy theory? there is all kinds of corruption to investigate in the ukraine. this was something you thought without merit because this was part of an effort to fix the problem that giuliani was creating? i did not propose it. well, i think you said you were okay with it or your amended statement said we seemed to include it because if it would help to fix the giuliani problem. was that the thinking? that s correct. if it threads the needle between what is reasonable for the ukraine to do and if it re-sets the negative perceptions held by julianet and president and why not? this is part of your opening statement, when you see a problem to fix it. is it clear to you now, ambassador volker, based on the september 25th call that you were not able to fix it? based on the transcript that was released on the 25th, i can see now that there was a lot else going that was about vice