Karen finney, host of disrupt. also former press secretary to then first lady hillary rodham clinton and msnbc contributor josh barrow co-host of the upshot for the new york times. and karen, i ve just been amaze at the invective level at michelle obama. it seems there were some people who said what can we do that s going to be good for the world that s correct good policy, that i can make my own and isn t going to be super controversial. and they picked this. and oh no, no, no, we re going to make it controversial. but i think the sort of thing where the gop in particular sort of waits to see what s she going to do, what s she going to do, is this incoming first lady going to since hillary, right? because she took such a big policy role. there s always this question of are they going to try to step into policy. and each woman really figures out her own way in what s appropriate for her. whether it s reading which is laura bush or nancy reagan with just say no, whether or not y