Concerning the allegations, i stressed that no one in the new team governing ukraine had anything to do with anything that may have happened in 2016. They were making Television Shows at the time. I also said that it is not credible to me that former Vice President biden would have been influenced in any way by financial or personal motives in carrying out his duties as Vice President. A different issue is whether some individual ukrainians may have attempted to influence the 2016 election or thought they would buy influence. That is at least plausible given ukraines reputation for corruption. But the accusation that Vice President biden acted inappropriately did not seem at all credible to me. After that meeting, i connected mayor giuliani and mr. Yermak by text and later by phone. They met in person on august 2nd, 2019. In conversations with me following that meeting, which i
did not attend, mr. Giuliani said that he had stressed the importance of ukraine conducting investigations in
counsel followed by 45 minutes for the ranking member or minority counsel and unless i specify extended questioning we ll proceed under the five-minute rule and every member will have a chance to ask questions. i recognize myself or counsel for the first round of questions. ambassador volker, i was just going to yield to the minority counsel but there are a couple of points you made in your opening statement that i want to ask about first. first you said that now former attorney general lutsenko was not credible. mr. lutsenko is the author of a number of allegations against ambassador yovanovitch, allegations shared with john of the hill and brought up by my republican colleagues. why is it that you found mr.