joel b bennenson join me now. we will see if that is yelling. they promised there won t be. let me ask you this, different versions of the same question. joel, i will start with you. are you being sore losers? no, i don t think we re being sore losers. i think we have acknowledged and i acknowledged in the exchange that they won. he is president-elect. but i was also saying and taking issue with the notion that there was a mandate and that when you talk about connecting with people over america, hillary clinton had 2.5 million more americans vote for her than donald trump. i m aware of the currency of presidential elections, the electoral college. i ve been on three winning presidential campaigns. but a mandate is when you win big in the popular vote, when you win big in the electoral college vote. i don t recall kellyanne saying that president obama had a mandate.