Bad news because i thought i could get joe out but joe might stick. crime is down. illegal immigration is down. everybody is going to sound like a republican. dana: it could be. i m waiting for claudine g i m waiting for claudine gay to come out with the statement that charlamagne tha god is a sexist and racist. imagine in a color-blind test, summary said this, and it turns out it was you or jesse. what do you think would be the reaction? those calls are coming from within the democratic party. i know you look at a lot of poles, but i like anecdotes as well. a young producer from america s newsroom s home for the holiday spirit she has friends that are both democrats. she said they are not going to vote for biden and harris, because they want to punish the dnc. what you might have happen is a coalescing from the media and social media, may be like a taylor swift that says might not be perfect, but it s better than the alternative, and that is what they would go into. the judge s
Against him in an unfair way. as joe said, by using the weakest case to come of the most tenuous, flimsy case to go first, this is only playing intt story line, so it is going to help with the primary voters. i think president trump was wise not to speak in public yet, not to try to get some kind of circus going in new york city because that would have reminded the general electric of january 6, i m glad he didn t do that. neil: and why push it? jesse: hello, everybody, i m jesse watters, joe jeanine pirro, 5:00 in new york city and this is the five. a surreal day in american history. former president donald trump on his way back to florida after surrendering himself in a manhattan courthouse vehicle he was arrested, fingerprinted, pled not guilty to 34 felony
Insufficient on its face, it is duplicitous, and what that means is they ve got if you look at the first four counts, they all occurred on february 14th of 2017. that means you ve got the same course of conduct, they are just looking at it differently, okay, so nobody get excited about the 34 counts, they are meaningless. and there will also be a bill of particulars beer in the bill of particulars, which is required to be submitted in new york state in 15 days, and may be extended to 35 if the judge wants to give the d.a. a break, they ve got to be real clear on what the bill of particulars says because a defendant has a right to prepare for trial. and this is garbage. you don t have a right to prepare you don t know what to prepare for on this. and by the way, you know, the whole concept that bragg gets up and he talks about, you know, this is new york, we are the center of the financial world, and all of that hogwash, doesn t
Explain why he takes every felony he can find, 50% at the bare minimum, and turns it into misdemeanors, but wants a misdemeanor to be a felony, and why did the defense have to come back? why does why does donald trump have to come back in december, when it is going to cost new york city millions of dollars? if any prosecutor would consider the cost of the city or the county, in deciding whether or not the appearance of the defendant is necessary. and, i mean, i could go on jesse: should we hear from the other lawyer at the table? we ve got one sitting right here. would you like to say anything about what the judge just asserted? so, this is a tough day. i think any time, and i ve watched the presidents face as he left trump tower, and i watched the pictures that we saw, live picture of him walking to the courtroom, and then the picture that they took in the courtroom of him two or three times, the first time i had ever seen come i don t know the president that well, i know him
Handled him. [laughter] you didn t see the cuffs, you didn t see any of that vehicle they set the rules. they set the tone. they protected him. and so they didn t get the circus that, you know, i was on when that news conference happened yesterday with the police commissioner and mayor eric adams and how, you know, we are getting ready, and to congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, you better be on your best behavior, all of this stuff. talk about incitement. why don t you just, you know, throw some gasoline where there is no fire and hope it sparks? but a couple of things. talking about, i try to be the judge sometimes. the eighth count, i thought you were talking about in the first four, april 13, 2017, that is a loaded date. they are going to do a lot with that date. i don t have your acumen as a judge for a legal expert, but i looked at that and thought, there is something else they re going to need. they are going to need michael cohen. how important is he to this