even worse brutalities coming forward, which will have to be making sure ukraine not only stops the advances of russian forces but actually pushes them back and starts winning this war. the kind of rhetoric that we re hearing from the president and others is creating the expectation in ukraine, rightly so, that there will be more assistance forthcoming if not actually direct military intervention. we really need to be very clear about what s at stake here. ukraine is fighting not just for ukraine, they re fighting for freedom in europe. it is important for the europeans and the united states to do what it can for ukraine to succeed. thanks you both very much. molly hunter, thanks to you as well. i m sorry to be so short with you but we have breaking news on msnbc. and job lederman, you and others scooping news, the federal mask