i think a number of prominent democrats have come out and said that they don t feel like attaching daca to the budget is a good idea and so hopefully we ll stick to that and get something done. it is stalling negotiations. no, i think he s worried that democrats unwillingness to actually put the country ahead of their party is what is stalling things from moving forward. whether it is the budget or whether it is a deal on daca. all right, also happening now, you re looking at live pictures from the senate judiciary committee. the homeland security secretary kirsten nielsen will testify today. this could be contentious. it brings together three players who were in that oval office meeting where the president dropped the s-bomb, two senators whose versions of the meeting differ very much from hers. so i m sure they will have a lot to talk about. we ll keep our eye on this hearing. first up, abbie philip morris at the white house. abbie? the debate continues to rage o