Times, they said the same thing, they have not found anything. jeri says she did not know who else to talk to, so she looked on her own, and found a year after year, nothing. she had no idea, she said, that shirley had left pepper with barbara, who had persuaded the court that she had been abandoned, and thus, could be adopted. or that shirley stole her back again. and then, there they were, telling their story on dateline. telling how shirley and barbara had described her. yes, i heard with a said about me. i was not a street walker, i was a waitress, all of my life. they also said that you did not really watch your children, you were happy to abandon them. i never abandoned my children, never. never ever. i would never, ever do that. and she was not a drug addict either, she says. she has not had a smooth or