In american history when when the loyalty to the president is such a premium, senators enter broken away from a party of you know a president of their own party and placed his agenda and n jeopardy shlgs placed his placed his presidency in some jepordy. this is extraordinary, we ve never had anything like this. we ve had drum lks grum lks and dropping before at griping before at presidents but the language they ve used. that goes beyond anything we have seen. chairman progressors do agree with david this isn t we haven t seen? i think this is very indicative of what s going on in