democracy, attacks on election administration are at every level, and it s such an important conversation today because i do hope the u.s. senate realizes that the dire straits the country is in and puts their political ambition aside to save american democracy. i want to ask you about redistricting because that was another concern going into this cycle following the most recent consensus, concern that there would be major gop gains. there are some democrats who looked a how it s ended up and say it s basically been a wash. a frankly that s because some blue states have been very aggressive withdrawing their districts as red ones. is this basically where we are when it comes to redistricting and jegerrymandering? well, colorado adopted independent redistricting. you re different, yes, for sure. we re different. but we are seeing, you know, the tools being used to attack democracy from every side. i think extreme republicans have really leenled in.
republicans will do. i think coming out against jegerrymandering is like saying water is wet. california, which has this nonpartisan redistricting, if democrats wanted to fight fire with fire, they jerry manned erred the heck out of new york and california. the two biggest where they haven t gone all in. i will push back a little bit. they have done it better for a very long time. look in real terms. the swaoepl court made this a lot easier. one, by gutting a portion of the voting rights act which would govern how states change their laws. and two by saying partisan jerry manned erg is something you can get away with. look at north carolina. california is theoretical. this happened in north carolina. they voted for joe biden 48.7% voted for a democratic governor. but now the map of congressional