This brings me to the topic of todays proceedings. I would like to recap my recollection of the timeline in which these events played out. I testified about all of this at length in my deposition. In july, i became aware of a hold being placed on obligation of the State Departments military financing or fmf and dods usai fund. In meetings i heard the president directed the Office Of Management And Budget to hold the funds because of his concern for corruption in ukraine. Let me say at the outset i have never discussed this or any other matter with the president and never heard directly from him about this matter. At a senior level meeting i attended july 26th chaired by National Council Security Leadership as in all other interagency meetings on this topic of which i was wear, the
national Security Community expressed unanimous support for resuming funding in the u. S. National security interests. At the July 26th Meeting there was also a discussion how ukrainian anticorruption efforts
Todays proceedings. I would like to recap my recognition of the timeline in which these events played out. I testified about all of this at length in my deposition. In july, i became aware of a hold being an obligation of the State Departments Foreign Military financing and dods usai funds. In a series of interagency meetings, i heard that the president had directed the office of of management and budget to hold the funds becausf his concerns about corruption in ukraine. Let me say at the outset that i have never discussed this or any other matter with the president and never heard directly from him about this matter. At a senior level meeting i attended on july 26, chaired by National Security council leadership, as at all other interagency meetings on this topic of which i was aware, the National Security community
expressed unanimous support for resuming the funding as in the u. S. National security interest. At the july 26 meeting, there was a discussion of how ukrainian anticorrup
international support. unfortunately, they are not getting the support needed to. joey: that will upon the ground, how can we support or how can ukrainian military support those that are there trying to defend the city? what type of weapons or strategy can be implemented? certainly i think the javelin system as well as other types of air defense systems are key, but you know they should have started back when 190,000 plus troops on the border. they should have started 2014 when original incursion took place donetsk as well as crimea. we should have utilizing budapest. where is the european union and all of this? they have the greatest risk and sitting back a lame duck as a result of energy dependence on bond russia. this is why united nations, security council needs to be stepping up. from a ground and strategic level getting the necessary drum support, and getting necessary javelin support, the things you and i had on the ground is what
conversation now about about perhaps introducing long-range air defense systems or, as most people have picked up, the s300. but but you need you need those systems in the country, and you need training on them. this isn t something that the ukrainians have have any experience with necessarily. well, i mean, in terms of the systems that i ve identified the javelin system which is a very effective anti-tank system and as well as the stinger yeah. those systems are already in country. we, in the united states, have no, those, yes. i am i m talking about i am talking about the longer-range anti-aircraft. yeah, the longer range because that is that is a russian tool. uh, it s called an sa10 when it was used in ukraine. ukrainians are familiar with the system. they didn t ask for the most advanced russian or nato system.
know, personal and political interests. that s not legitimate. regardless of the sequence of events and what happened. it is true that this is more aggressive aid and the javelin system than what the obama administration provided. but the congress made the decision, the ukrainians were dependent upon it as ned indicates there s a hot war going on. the signaling of this is important. not just to deter putin in his future adventurism in ukraine but to signal to allies that this is important to unleash their aid and assistance including lethal aid and assistance which is important. finally, i think it s incredibly important to keep this in mind of light of what the russians have been trying to do in terms of hybrid warfare and information warfare. if the russians think they can