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Transcripts for CNN CNN Primetime 20240604 02:19:00

Tonight. i think the answer as to why georgia, many different reasons fell into place and not insignificantly the recalcitrance she got from government officials who refused to cooperate with this lawful investigation into unlawful activity. remember, graham hired a lawyer to get him out of testifying, if you will recall. but i think both the voters and the juries are going to end up deciding this because the jury, if trump is indicted, the jury can say okay, we think he s guilty. and then he can run for president and he can be elected president of the united states. so it is not an either or situation that lindsey graham is portraying it as. everybody gets their shot at this and again, it was lindsey graham who do not want to cooperate with this investigation. we should note, laura, one of the things that we heard

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Primetime 20240604 02:40:00

Kind of a miracle or taking him on directly. alyssa farah griffin, then urban, back to you. michael moore, former u.s. attorney and senior legal analyst at leoni, and former u.s. assistant attorney. elie, first of all i do think it is important to point out that we know the grand jury has returned indictments and we had ten indictments that were talked about. that does not, i think we really need to reiterate, that does not mean that they are all necessarily related to this case? exactly, anderson. there are really two possibilities. here it could be that there are ten different charging documents, ten different indictments, and each of them charges some different individual or group of individuals, all of whom relate to the effort to steal the election in georgia. but it also could be that there is one bake indictment naming all the defendants and the election interference case and the nine other indictments that have nothing to do with the election. and if you re wondering, at

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Primetime 20240604 02:51:00

Donald trump was told that information in an affidavit, in a sworn statement was false. john eastman told him the information in the lawsuit that was false. in this sworn statement he was about to sign was false. and yet he signed it anyways and turned it and sent it to georgia. there is so many things that we saw play out in realtime. and i am wondering what you think about a criminal case that might be based on some of these, some of the evidence that the public is already aware of. sure, as you know, i am a criminal lawyer, i am not part of any campaign. so i don t really look at things from the perspective of, you know, was a good idea? or rather, is it something that somebody should go to jail for. and i think that a lot of that is gonna come down to criminal intent. and, you know, the difference between doing something that may have been ill-advised, doing something that may have, you know, may have been

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Primetime 20240604 02:00:00

Parts of georgia where people of color live to try to disenfranchise them. people like rudy giuliani spread racist lies about election workers in order to try to disenfranchise voters. you cannot disentangle that from fani willis is well. and her view that this is necessary and important to prosecute that. and in this particular scene, which is at the heart of, you know, the voting rights movement in this country. look, the prosecutors motivation matters. and i think that is part of it for her as well. we are at just about ten pm, eastern time, seven seconds away. with donald trump seemingly on the cusp of indictments number four, jake tapper here in washington along with anderson cooper and caitlin collins. ? a little more than an hour, ago grandeur in atlanta handed of ten vitamins in fulton county journey fani willis s investigation of the former presidents attempt to overturn the 2020 georgia election. anderson, those investments are sealed, so we don t yet know who actually

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Primetime 20240604 02:53:00

His deputy attorney general going line by line by line with every false conspiracy theory that donald trump would tell, him saying, no, we look into that. this is the truth. at one point is there just a, s refusal to acknowledge the truth indicative of something beyond just, well he believed it? sure, there is the concept of conscious avoidance. and if everything as, you just said. i m sorry to interrupt you for just one second, i just want to bring the news, the indictment has been unsealed, and cnn can report that donald trump has been indicted by this grand jury in fulton county, the news this evening, the grand jury in fulton county, which is the atlanta, georgia area. as indebted former president donald trump. this is the fourth indictment of donald trump since he left the presidency. i m sorry, go ahead, and

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