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something very provocative like the invasion of ukraine, they ll work with or they ll help out the united states or other western powers as sort of a signal to say, look, remember, we can actually help you in some places so remember that when you re responding to what we re about to do in a kinetic way. it s a really fascinating dichotomy, katie. thank you all as well. with me now is former supreme ally commander at nato, admiral james defreitis. he is our chief diplomacy analyst. admiral, thanks so much for joining us. i want to ask you about what some lawmakers are demanding of the white house right now, which is they want the sanctions that could be levied against russia to be levied right now. an tow any blinken, the secretary of state, says, no, he s worried that that would be

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