part out loud right now, on laura coates live. the so it all went down behind closed doors, signed by people who want him to win the most. president joe biden making an admission of sorts saying quote, if trump wasn t running, i m not sure i would be running. now look we all remember he entered the rate over what happened in charlottesville, talking about battling for the soul of the nation. it was obvious to everyone then that trump was the catalyst. but tonight statements, have gone a little different for some reason. maybe because he was in a room full of donors, maybe because his campaign has wanted to focus on health care this week, and his desire to have another four years to finish the job he started. the question people are asking tonight, when you already have the polling by the way that shows people might not be too thrilled with a relapse, between the two of them, isn t a lack of enthusiasm on his part? is it just recognizing on his part, that trump represents an o
country, and my way of doing that is going to be departing donald trump on day one. i take the pardon authority very seriously. it is an enormously important power of someone in executive position, and i just think it is premature to have any conversation about that right now. we need to believe in our judicial process in this country, or we don t. we either stand by the rule of law or we don t. would you commit to pardoning him on any federal charges against him? what i ve said is very simple, i m going to do what is right for the country. i don t think it will be good for the country to have an almost 80-year-old, former president go to prison. so that s a yes? we shouldn t be promising and holding out for the big leaf of a pardon because it undermines our jury system. i want to bring in washington correspondent for the journal of constitution, tia mitchell. also, former associate white house counsel to george w. bush, and jamele jaffer, and former fbi deputy director o
jon: the white house now says that president biden will visit poland, during his trip to europe this week. that to take place friday, day after planned meetings in brussels with nato allies, g-7 leaders and eu leaders, house said mr. biden will travel to warsaw and hold a bilateral meeting with poland s president to discuss how u.s. and allies are responding to the crisis that russia s unjustified and unprovoked war on ukraine has created. and for more on this, we bring in founder and executive director of national security institution, and former associate white house council to george w. bush jamele jaffer. president will be visiting the nato summit and visits poland. would you advise him to at