Documents, however imperfect the record is. on our best days we two towards that. on our worst days, they are hypocritical cudgels used only against self. so you and i discussed this on this program. you are a guest on this program because you have decades of work in civil rights law. when we look at this jail, this jail has in atlanta, has certainly processed many other people. i will say, many of them poor, black, and brown who don t get a week to voluntarily come in. we showed then president trump talking about what is often the way arrests are made, which is on the spot, which is of course more humiliating and sometimes it may be physically necessary. other times it seems to be overused against certain communities. i wonder what you think with mr. meadows and mr. giuliani, who seem to be i have a report on this coming up in the hour, said by him, i m not making this up. he seems to be aghast this